Posts by Broken Hearted

  • katiekitten
    28

    My daughter has to call her 'mum'

    by katiekitten in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    im sorry i havent been on the forum for ages.

    but like the prodigal son i have a problem now, and i would really appreciate some help and input.. i found out at the beginning of the week, by a slip of the tongue from my daughter, that she has been told by her dad to call his new wife 'mum'.

    daughter is 8, and on questioning has said that she feels she might get told off if she doesnt use this term.. i initially phoned her dad to ask if this was true, and he told me she uses the term all the time and 'its none of my business'.

    1. Spectrum
    2. fullofdoubtnow
    3. Broken Hearted
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted
    It is SO WRONG.

    Katie first off

    {{{{Hugs}}}}

    I have five children. My ex husband pulls stuff like this all the time. He is dating my ex best friend and when we were going through the divorce and he told her I wanted to kill her, so she files for an injunction, then two weeks before my divorce hearing, she files violation charges against me for being at my own son's baseball games. She tried to have me thrown in jail so that my ex would get full custody. It back fired, becasue I pled not guilty and decided to let it go to trial. The divorce hearing went on and then miracoulsy the day I was to be in court with a public defender the charges got dropped, the divorce was not final until 5 months later and they thought they had won. It is a mind control thing to see who is in charge. (and non of are JWs) This only one thing these two snakes in the grass ( putting it nicely not my choice words in person for them) have done to me over the past 4 years. Oh by the way I won the custody battle. I did not ask for full custody I asked for shared custody I get them one week their dad gets them the next. There is no child support. He is not a bad father was just a horrible husband, ( well it could be argued he is bad becasue he pulls some of those mind games on them) The judge sited that his cohabitating with the girfriend and them trying tohave the kids testify against me gave the judge the reason to side with me. I told him to tell her Thank you for helping me win the custody battle. By the way I would die if my kids called this woman mother, so I completely understand, I am the one that birthed these children, and went through the labor with them. I understand if children do not have the other parent in their life at all, because of death maybe or becaue the other parent ( like my real dad) chose to not be apart of their life. I would not want the daughter of the JW guy i am with to ever call me Mom out of respect of her real mom ( even though that evil witch does not deserve it.)

    Hang in there girl don't give up. Don't give them any rope to hang you with but don't take their shit either.

  • SickofLies
    114

    Best Committee Meeting Yet - They threatened to call the police on me!

    by SickofLies in
    1. watchtower
    2. scandals

    yeee haaa!

    i'm an outlaw now!

    the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!

    1. AdaMakawee
    2. freetosee
    3. mcsemike
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    When I heard the recording, It reminded me of my ex husband's attorney. In our deposition he would always ask the same question in a different way to see if i would trip up and change my mind. I got pissed at him told him that I taught first graders and they seem to understand the answers I gave then why couldn't he. It made him mad. Also asked me what would push me over the edge to have a nervous breakdown, knowing that the next day I was going to be served with injunction papers from ex's girlfriend at the time. (which was a ploy for ex to get custody of kid but did not work )

    Wonder now if he is not a JW, the questioning tactic was the same.

  • Broken Hearted
    22

    MIND IN OVERLOAD

    by Broken Hearted in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    for a week now i have been on this sight, the watch tower sight, reading 3 diffrent translations of the bible ( kj, nwt, and new american standard,) would have a 4th translation if i could read greek because i also have a greek new testament.

    i have also been in long conversations with the guy that is a jw and find myself overwhelmed.

    i am getting addicted to all this and the research.

    1. jwfacts
    2. Apostate Kate
    3. Broken Hearted
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted
    If I were you I would be spending my time hugging and playing with your precious daughter instead of trying to make sense of a crazy culI a

    Well see there was this nasty divorce, and well I get my children every other week( which I fought for he wanted full custody i asked for shared and won) so I have extra time ( not really but get depressed being alone). My 18 year old has chosen to not live with me anymore, because I won't let her tell me how to raise my other children like her father and his girlfriend does.

  • Broken Hearted
    22

    MIND IN OVERLOAD

    by Broken Hearted in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    for a week now i have been on this sight, the watch tower sight, reading 3 diffrent translations of the bible ( kj, nwt, and new american standard,) would have a 4th translation if i could read greek because i also have a greek new testament.

    i have also been in long conversations with the guy that is a jw and find myself overwhelmed.

    i am getting addicted to all this and the research.

    1. jwfacts
    2. Apostate Kate
    3. Broken Hearted
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    For a week now I have been on this sight, The Watch Tower sight, Reading 3 diffrent Translations of the bible ( KJ, NWT, and New American Standard,) Would have a 4th translation If I could read Greek because I also have a Greek New Testament. I have also been in long conversations with the Guy that is a JW and find myself Overwhelmed. I am getting addicted to all this and the research. I feel like I am going in all kinds of directions and needing structure. I feel at a dissavantage because I don't have access to the books and publications from the WTS, I am not looking to tear down this religion, just trying to understand. I was accused of looking for the negative, by being on this sight, I don't really think that is what I am doing just trying to get understanding of something I have never been exposed to and was raise to fear.

    I know I have gotten a lot of help here, and can't express the thanks. I know this journey in my life right now is going to be like climbing a huge mountain and not having the proper equipment I might fall and get hurt.

    I will say a postive thing I have found out about the JW religion, though people are complaining about it, They do make you study and learn more about what they tell you that you believe, They know their scriputre and thier history. While I was raised in the church I will confess that I am relying on memory of what I was taught in Sunday School or what the service was about. I have never gotten in and studied it for myself. I was considered a trouble maker as a teen in the church, I would always think out side the box and question things, and when I would ask what about this, I was told that the Bible was ordained by God and that I should just accept what was written. That we would have all the answers after the Rapture. I instead of doing more research on my own shyed away from it.

    I feel I am vunerable becasue I have not been in a church in 10 years regularly, ( many reasons and you can read some of why on this post I did here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/111074/2.ashx) . And I am not where I need to be spiritually and have blamed God for some of the devasting things tha has happened in my life over the last 4 years. (Daughter that is needing a double lung transplant) I also have a mother that would sit and preach at me about faith and trusting God yet I did not see the fruits of it in her life, or judging me when clearly the bible says that we are not to sit in judgment that is for God to do, oh and by the way speaking of that is that not what the elders are doing, when they DF someone? My jw guy has tried explaining this DF thing and he is getting frustrated because I don't see it has a healthy thing. ( By the way he has been DF once himself ) He has suggested I call my local kingdom hall to get the answers maybe they could explain it better. Told him was not doing that, then I asked him if his elder father would be able to explain it a better way.

    Guess I am looking for suggestions on how to not be negative on this research . I realize that there is a lot of hurt here, and rightfully so from what I am reading . How do I answer those type of questions about where I am getting my information and that the people feeding me the lies are people who refuse to listen.

    Another Question why does a JW when answering a question always have to use and anology to get their point across and not just answer the question at hand?

    Okay guess I have vented enough this morning. See what I mean about being all over the place and my mind in overload?

  • Check_Your_Premises
    14

    UBM Point to ponder: Where do we fit into the equation

    by Check_Your_Premises in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    i am reading the emotionally abusive relationship: how to stop being abused, how to stop abusing.. .

    it has been an enlightening read to say the least.

    i turned toward this topic due to ladylee's constant reminders that cults are simply another form of abusive relationship.. .

    1. EAGLE-1
    2. jgnat
    3. Broken Hearted
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted
    Also, just a heads-up, a JW parent would probably allow your second child to die rather than take a blood transfusion. The JW lifestyle comes at a cruel price.

    Perhaps most of this is a moot point. As far as I know, the man you love has already decided to return to the meetings and give you up. If he does come swinging back your way, I'd be sure to nail him down on his stand on accepting blood.

    We are still talking, and acutally since the elders have found out about me, He is calling me more and texting me and online with more now. We have discussed the blood issue to extreme, and I am not wavering on this at all. He is not happy about it of course but I have told him not his daughter not his choice. She has already had blood platelets to keep her alive during a surgery she has last year. I don't fully understand what the issue is about the blood. I really am not out to change the way he believes. I do question him on lots of issues not to make him waiver in his belief but for my sake of trying to understand. I don't know why we just can't live our lives loving the persons we both fell in love with and answering to God (Jehovah) in our own ways, I guess I am too much of a romantic opinionated optimistic person which means i am sure in the end the heart will be broken. I read one time only those that give up are failures. I am not giving up on him however I know he might give up on me. IF that is the case I did not fail he did.

  • ArtfulDodger
    58

    DO SOMETHING

    by ArtfulDodger in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    i see this site gets thousands of postings every day .. from literally thousands of members, mostly ex-dubs, from all over the world.. rather than simply go on moaning and whinging about the big nasty org why don't you all put your efforts into something positive ... do something.. ok - the org is evil .. but it exists ... and simply whining on about it doesn't change that.

    with your efforts directed at something positive, you could do wonders for .

    .for anything you choose.. hundreds of real charities could do with your support - to help the really needy .

    1. MsMcDucket
    2. BluesBrother
    3. kid-A
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    This sight is doing something, It is giving people a chance to vent, for one, secondly giving people like me that have no clue about the religion to get answers from those that either are still going or once was.

  • SickofLies
    114

    Best Committee Meeting Yet - They threatened to call the police on me!

    by SickofLies in
    1. watchtower
    2. scandals

    yeee haaa!

    i'm an outlaw now!

    the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!

    1. AdaMakawee
    2. freetosee
    3. mcsemike
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    okay with me being new to this site and learning about this religion, What I find interesting is the sign posted "We must obey God as Ruler rather than men. Hmmmmmm and who is ruling the people in this religion, and who is spying on others in this religion, and who do you have to answer to in this religion? sounds like Men. So they are not even following the scripture they have posted.

  • Broken Hearted
    7

    What Is the Conventions About?

    by Broken Hearted in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    can someone tell me what the purpose of the conventions are and what does on at them?

    trying to still research this religion and understand more from the outside.

    1. jgnat
    2. Ténébreux
    3. BluesBrother
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    I know they are encouraged to attend these but are they like the meetings you don't go and people will be breathing down their neck?

  • Broken Hearted
    7

    What Is the Conventions About?

    by Broken Hearted in
    1. watchtower
    2. beliefs

    can someone tell me what the purpose of the conventions are and what does on at them?

    trying to still research this religion and understand more from the outside.

    1. jgnat
    2. Ténébreux
    3. BluesBrother
  • Broken Hearted
    Broken Hearted

    Can someone tell me what the purpose of the conventions are and what does on at them? Trying to still research this religion and understand more from the outside.